Whether or not the Air Force buys new and improved F-15 fighters, known as the F-15X, the aircraft won’t be taking money from the F-35 program. Beyond its large size (20 percent larger than the F-35), it was engineered before the advent of computers and digital fly-by-wire systems. A license manufacturing deal is reportedly being tied to a deal to modernise the Su-30MKI to a ‘4++ generation standard’ - allowing the Indian Air Force to upgrade existing fighters with Irbis-E radars and AL-41 engines which would revolutionise their performances. These frequently intercept Russian or Chinese aircraft that test the boundaries of the sectors they are assigned to defend. Further increasing the attractiveness of the Su-35, the fighter has been offered for licence manufacturing in India alongside transfers of some technologies for its AL-41 engines and Irbis-E radars. F-22 vs Su-35 History As far as public knowledge goes, there has only been one run-in between these two flagship fighters. While the MMRCA initially stipulated that fighters should be of a light-medium weight, and at first restricted the competition exclusively to single engine aircraft, the Su-35 and F-15X stand out as the only two high end heavyweight aircraft in the competition. These missiles have less than half the range of the R-37 and are much slower - with a speed of around Mach 4.5. F-15EX vs the Su-35. Traditionally, an air superiority fighter must be maneuverable for within-visual range (WVR) combats, as enemy fighters will have decent odds of evading beyond-visual-range (BVR) missiles. To survive those kinds of defenses, fourth-generation jets must engage in elaborate anti-SAM games of cat and mouse involving jamming aircraft, HARM anti-radar missiles and Wild Weasel strike planes, and use expensive long-range standoff missiles. The F-35 is stealthier but the F-15 flies higher, farther and faster and carries more weaponry. The McDonnell Douglas (now Boeing) F-15E Strike Eagle is an American all-weather multirole strike fighter derived from the McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle.The F-15E was designed in the 1980s for long-range, high-speed interdiction without relying on escort or electronic-warfare aircraft. high manoeuvrability, a Mach 6 speed and very powerful sensors. The F-15EX reportedly has a maximum take-off weight of about 36 tonnes, near to that of the Su-30MKI, the Indian Air Force’s mainstay fighter. Suhojevi lovci so namreč opremljeni s hiperzvočnimi raketami R-37M, ki so izjemno okretne in imajo doseg 400 km, letijo s hitrostjo 6 machov in premorejo precej močne senzorje. However, Russia … This would also allow the older fighters to make use of new types of munitions such as the R-37M air to air missile. Military Watch, 18 февраля 2020. The Battle of the Books: Taxpayer Burden and Bureaucratic Support. Military aviation forum mainly focusing on the F-16, F-35 and F-22 jet fighters. Both the F-15EX and the Su-35 are twin engine designs capable of operating at high altitudes, and both have the long ranges needed to penetrate enemy airspace and deliver a wide range of standoff munitions for both air to air and air to ground missions. Furthermore, the fact the Eagle has two engines means the aircraft is less likely to be lost if one fails—a factor manifested in significantly higher accident-rates of single-engine F-16 fighters compared to twin-engine F-15s. Undoubtedly, the F-15EX will be more vulnerable to enemy fighters in BVR, particularly advanced 4.5-generation jets like the Su-35, as well as stealth aircraft like China’s Chengdu J-20. The Sukhoi Su-35, termed as a ‘4++ generation’ fighter jet, is a super-maneuverable aircraft. Certainly, the F-15EX will seemingly be more at probability of enemy opponents in BVR, particularly marvelous 4.5-skills jets love the Su-35, as well to stealth plane love China’s Chengdu J-20. Contrary to one might expect, the F-35A is no more expensive than an F-15EX—at around $85 million each. Hal ini memungkinkan Su-35 mengalahkannya dengan mudah, meski pesawat tempur Amerika itu sedang dalam manuver tempur kompleks. Ultimately it remains uncertain whether India will opt for a heavyweight fighter under the tender - or whether it will stick to its original plan to acquire a lighter and lower maintenance jet such as the MiG-35 or French Rafale. Instead, the ability to loiter at length over combat zones and precisely deliver large payloads of weapons is key. As foreign air forces have ordered more and more heavily modernized F-15s over the last few decades, Boeing is offering to an F-15EX variant that will incorporate all those new bits of technology (detailed here)—while also incorporating the multirole capability the F-15C lacks. Detection Range vs. S-400 Missile System F-35A F-15EX 195 to 215 miles 21 miles. Perhaps the most advanced threat the F-15 is likely to encounter is the Russian Sukhoi Su-35 (NATO reporting name Flanker-E). F-15EX có khả năng gia tăng tốc độ cao hơn so với Su-35. Still, the F-35 does bring a different advantage to the table: its networked sensor suit may be better suited for locating enemy positions and sharing that information with friendly forces. IN A FIRST, HAWK-I AIRCRAFT FIRES SMART ANTI-AIRFIELD WEAPON OFF ODISHA COAST, IAF ANNOUNCES INDUCTION OF ASTRA, ITS MOST POTENT AIR-TO-AIR MISSILE, TJEAS Vs Sukhoi: Why India's Tejas Is 'Definitely Better' Than Russian Su-30MKI Jets? Alongside the Su-30, India deploys a number of other Russian jets such as the MiG-29 and MiG-21BiS which use modern Russian munitions such as the R-77 and R-27 air to air missiles - all of which are compatible with the Su-35. Designed by Sukhoi Bureau and built by the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft plant, the single-seat, and twin-engine aircraft is the derivative of Su-27 heavyweight fighter which was built to take on the elite Western Block’s air fleet. In a shooting war, higher maximum speed and a larger maximum missile load—up twenty missiles using special quad-racks instead of the F-35’s six—allow an F-15 to intercept bombers faster and launch more missiles in an emergency scenario. Plans to similarly reduce the radar cross section of the F-15 under the F-15SE program were cancelled, and have not been incorporated onto the F-15EX design. For example, the F-15EX’s APG-82 AESA radar is arguably superior to the Su-35’s Irbis because it is higher-resolution, harder to detect and more resistant to jamming; it also can efficiently scan and jam simultaneously. The similarities between the Su-35 and the Su-30MKI will also allow pilots to relatively easily transfer between operating the two classes - which with India already having several hundred trained Su-30 pilots is a major advantage. The most-advanced F15 ever built is expected to assist the USAF to meet its capacity requirements and add the combat capability to its aircraft fleet. However, if the F-15EX has a cost advantage, it comes in terms of operating costs. In terms of price, the export Su-35 and F-15EX appear to come in the mid-$80 millions to $70 millions according to various reports. The F-15 is non-stealthy as a fighter can get, but has a 33 percent higher maximum speed of Mach 2.5 and a longer range. (This first appeared in July 2019. Prilikom bitke u zraku prednosti Su-35 su još značajnije. USAF has said that 2028 is probably the latest the jet could conceivably operate close to contested enemy airspace. Contains high quality discussions and has a gentle but strict moderation. Three dimensional thrust vectoring capabilities, however, will make the Su-35’s advantage overwhelming at short ranges. But this much-touted capability has not actually been developed yet. Expert Analysis, IAF Announces Induction of Astra, Its Most Potent Air-To-Air Missile, Tejas Decision A Good One, But Much More Left To Do, TEJAS Resurgent: MK-1A Cost Is Under $62 Million After Taxes, Private Sector Role, No Choice For State-owned Firms: How TEJAS, Rafale Are Making India 'Atmanirbhar', Army Made Emergency Purchases Worth Rs 5,000 Crore Amid Standoff With China, TEJAS Keeps India’s Capability Gap With China Under Check. The Su-35 is closely related to the Su-30MKI, of which India plans to field close to 300 with over 250 already in service, and interoperability will provide a significant advantage which the F-15 would lack. One of the battles currently raging revolves over a seemingly simple question: should the Air Force devote a share of its funding to procuring a new version of its oldest fighter, the F-15 Eagle, or devote every available dollar to its newest, the F-35 Lightning. NATIONAL HARBOR: Boeing’s proposed Block III upgrade to the Super Hornet would be a “fairly high-end” complement to the F-35C Joint Strike Fighter, acting Navy Secretary Sean Stackley believes. This advantage is further cemented by the Su-35’s very high level of interoperability with the Su-30MKI, and the possibility of using Su-35 technologies obtained under the contract to upgrade the Su-30 to a comparable ‘4++ generation’ standard. He currently writes on security and military history for War Is Boring. Share. While the F-15EX’s air to air missiles do suffer a quantitative disadvantage, the fighter is able to carry up to 22 of them where the Su-35 can carry just 14. That reflects success in cutting initially alarming F-35 costs thanks to massive economies of scale in its favor—the Pentagon expects to order over 2,000 F-35s. The single-engine F-35A is designed to launch penetrating strikes into defended enemy airspace relying on its stealth characteristics and powerful sensors to evade enemy forces. Originating as the U.S. response to the Soviet Union’s Mach 3 MiG-25 interceptor, the Mach 2.5 F-15 was built around a massive radar and sized to carry large long-range counter-air missiles. The aircraft both represent extensive modernisations of Cold War era designs - the Soviet Su-27 and American F-15C respectively which were both countries’ prime air superiority fighters during the conflict. The Rafale achieved a 1:1 kill ratio (1 Su-35 destroyed for each Rafale lost). The F-15 is well-suited for peacetime patrols because its greater combat range of 1,200 miles allows it to embark on long patrols, and requires less aerial refueling, compared to the 770-mile range of the F-35A. While the F-15EX is a very formidable fighter, it cannot be paired with an upgrade package for existing Indian fighters in any comparable way - which would only be possible if India already operated older classes of American fighter such as the F-15C. Complicating matters is that the two aircraft are built to do different things. But the F-15EX’s fortunes may ultimately revolve more around political factors: it is perceived as being foisted upon the military by civilian appointees, rather than having a strong bases of support within the Air Force brass. Ngoài ra, ở mặt cắt ngng thì radar của Su-35 nhỏ hơn khoảng một phần ba so với F-15EX, điều này khiến cho máy bay chiến đấu Nga có được lợi thế về khả năng tàng hình. F-35 proponents argue, however, that stealth would give F-35s the advantage of surprise versus enemy bombers—increasing the likelihood of killing bombers before they flee—as well as protect the interceptor from falling victim to enemy escort fighters. The F-15EX is forecast to cost $27,000 per flight hour, while the Air Force is struggling to get F-35 operating costs to $34,000 an hour. F-15E Strike Eagle The F-15EX also finally incorporates an infrared sensor, a … The F-15EX is very similar to the latest export versions of F-15E such as F-15QA or F-15SA. Ovo omogućava ruskom lovcu da u složenim borbenim manevrima (petljama) lako "ulovi" svakog svog protivnika, pa i F-15EX. The Su-35’s main attractions over the F-15EX, however, is the difficulty of incorporating American aircraft into a service which already operates an overly diverse fleet and does not operate any classes of American fighters or air to air missiles. Though the F-15EX’s proponents argue that the money spent wouldn’t detract from F-35 funding, Lockheed and most of the air force brass don’t see it that way and strenuously object. The missile will have a range of approximately 200km. Air superiority refers to seizing control of the skies by beating enemy fighters at their own game—not just playing defense against enemy intruders. American F-15s today rely on the ageing AIM-120C with a 105km range - although the F-15EX could be marketed with the AIM-120D with a longer 180km range. SU-35 vs MIG-35. But the Air Force insists that its Red Flag military exercises have repeatedly shown that its F-35s consistently trounce non-stealth aircraft by lopsided 20:1 kill ratios. F-15EX vs. Su-35: Why India Would Choose the Russian Flanker Over the New American Eagle for its MMRCA Contract. Stealth fighters with lower radar cross sections can reportedly be detected at ranges of over 80km. The Su-35 will in the near future also have access to the K-77, which will make use of a revolutionary new APAA guidance system that will make it extremely difficult to evade. Normally, an F-35 is limited to four or six munitions stored in its internal bay. Name: Sukhoi Su-30 McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle; Type: Multirole fighter: Air superiority fighter: Origin: Russia: USA: Produced: 1990: 1976: Unit cost: 37.5 million $ 25 March 2020. The F-15EX is a much bulkier design with a much lower thrust/weight ratio, allowing the Su-35 to comfortably outmanoeuvre it even without relying on its thrust vectoring engines. That means the F-35s can more freely operate over enemy airspace on “Day One” of a conflict. Thus, the F-15EX program may not survive a change in administration. Sébastien Roblin holds a master’s degree in conflict resolution from Georgetown University and served as a university instructor for the Peace Corps in China. In December of 2017, two F-22s engaged two Su-25’s over Syria after the Russian jets crossed the de-confliction line – entering territory claimed by the U.S. There isn’t a contest. As the Air Force is also very familiar with F-15 after forty years of service, the F-15EX likely benefit from higher readiness rates than the notoriously low ones currently afflicting the F-35. Other advantages enjoyed by the Su-35 include its access to R-37M hypersonic air to air missiles - which have a long 400km range. f-15ex обладает громоздкой конструкцией и более низким отношением тяги к весу. F-15EX memiliki badan pesawat yang lebih besar, dengan rasio dorong/berat yang jauh lebih rendah. Furthermore, F-35 advocates argue that using stealth jets saves the need to deploy huge strike packages incorporating dozens of aircraft, as were fielded by the Air Force in the 1991 Gulf War. The F-15 EX jets are also contenders for the Indian MMRCA contract and competing against French Rafales, Russian SU-35s, American F/A 18 Super Hornets & F-21s besides the Swedish Gripen. The Su-35 does benefit from a number of advantages in beyond visual range engagements, including its radar cross section reducing profile which leaves its radar cross section at under one third that of the F-15. The F-15 does have the advantage of a higher speed however, able to reach Mach 2.5 where the Su-35 is restricted to speeds of around Mach 2.25. Rather simply, whereas F-15s will seemingly be ready to shoot at enemy 4. While the old F-15Cs were not configured for ground attack, the F-15EX will be—and should be able to carry a heavier ground-attack payload underwing. Odnos između snage potiska motora i težine zrakoplova je znatno lošiji nego kod Su-35. Therefore, the F-15C’s replacement must be judged by how efficiently it performs that mission in peacetime as well as how viable it is in a high-intensity conflict scenario. When fighting against foes like the Taliban or ISIS without high-altitude anti-aircraft weapons, stealth capabilities become superfluous. The Air Force’s soon-to-be-retired twin-engine F-15C fighters are air-to-air-only aircraft that patrol the airspace around the United States and foreign military bases, fending off intruders and potential attackers. Undoubtedly, the F-15EX will be more vulnerable to enemy fighters in BVR, particularly advanced 4.5-generation jets like the Su-35, as well as stealth aircraft like China’s Chengdu J-20. Quite simply, while F-15s may be able to shoot at enemy 4.5-generation aircraft from afar—and launch many missiles due to their quad racks—they will, in turn, be equally vulnerable. While the advantages of the Su-35 are overwhelming, opting for its American analogue as part of a politically motivated purchase remains a considerable possibility. The Irbis-E can detect most fighter sized targets at ranges of over 400 kilometres, and can track up to 30 airborne targets simultaneously and engage up to eight. While both the F-15EX and the Su-35 are in many ways comparable, the Su-35’s advantages both at range and in close range engagements are very considerable. Russian, China and their export clients are increasingly fielding powerful radars and surface-to-air missile systems that can detect and shoot missiles at conventional fighters like the F-15EX from over 100 miles away. Su-35 (Left) and F-15EX Heavyweight Air Superiority Fighters, Leading MMRCA Contenders: MiG-35, F-21, Su-35 and Rafale Fighters (clockwise from top left). Whereas the Su-35 is a lot stealthier than the original Su-27 - the F-15 has seen little change to its profit and if anything has become bulkier and easier to detect at range. For now, eight F-15EXs are on an initial order for $1.1 billion—with that possibly serving as a precursor for 144 more. Both the F-15EX and the Su-35 are twin engine designs capable of operating at high altitudes, and both have the long ranges needed to penetrate enemy airspace and deliver a wide range of standoff munitions for both air to air and air to ground missions. In the last few years, the Defense Department has repeatedly tilted towards Boeing in competition, and one of the acting defense secretaries was a former Boeing executive. Both the F-15EX and the Su-35 are twin engine designs capable of operating at high altitudes, and both have the long ranges needed to penetrate enemy airspace and deliver a wide range of standoff munitions for both air to air and air to ground missions. At short range—where most air-to-air kills have been scored historically—the F-15 would retain an energy advantage compared to the F-35, which would also be more susceptible to detection by infrared and radar. Both the F-15EX and the Su-35 are twin-engine designs capable of functioning at high altitudes, and both have the long ranges needed to penetrate enemy airspace and deliver a wide range of munitions for both air to air and air to ground missions. It depends on the mission--if we are being honest. And just like the F-35 vs F-15EX, this raises the question of whether a fourth-generation aircraft will undercut plans to buy expensive fifth-generation models. The aviation world is abuzz with rumors that the U.S. Air Force is evaluating the purchase of a brand-new F-15X model of the legendary 45-year-old F-15 Eagle twin-engine fighter. So just how well can these aircraft perform various missions? Following an order by the United States Air Force for the first F-15EX heavyweight ‘4+ generation’ fighters, while are slated to replace the ageing F-15C Eagles in frontline service and partly compensate for the very limited availability of fifth generation F-22 Raptors designed for a similar role, the Boeing company which developed the aircraft has sought to market them to India under the MMRCA tender. The aircraft will compete with the medium weight F-18E Block III Super Hornet, the lightweight F-21 derived from the F-16E Fighting Falcon and a range of foreign jets including three European designs and the Russian medium weight MiG-35 and heavyweight Su-35 ‘4++ generation’ fighters. By contrast, integrating the F-15EX into an already very diverse fleet - some would argue too diverse - could provide a logistics nightmare - particularly considering that India deploys no classes of American fighter and no American air to air missiles or maintenance equipment. While the Su-35 is appears to be the more capable aircraft based on an assessment of its capabilities, its main attraction to India over the F-15EX is likely to be its synergy with existing fighters in the Indian Air Force's fleet. 0 671 1 minute read. By comparison, because a stealth aircraft’s reduced radar cross-section means they will only become vulnerable to targeting radars at short range, they can more easily infiltrate between the “bubbles” of enemy air defense radars and employ cheaper, shorter-range guided weapons. The F-15EX, though, is a fourth generation aircraft which lacks the stealth characteristics and sensor fusion of the F-35 and F-22 and therefore won’t be able to survive against modern air defenses for very much longer. In visual range combat, the Su-35’s advantages are even more considerable. If the Air Force does dispense with the F-15EX down the line, however, it should consider developing a longer-endurance model of the F-35 for the interceptor/air sovereignty mission—particularly as in 2019 the Air Force appears increasingly disinclined to develop an entirely new manned sixth-generation fighters for that job. The EF-2000 kill ratio was 4.5:1 while the F-22 achieved a ratio of 10:1. Naime, F-15EX ima znatno lošiju aerodnimačku konstrukciju. Theoretically, in a permissive combat scenario where stealth isn’t a factor, a “Beast Mode” F-35 can be loaded down with four to six additional air-to-surface weapons on external racks. The F-15EX is primarily supposed to replace F-15Cs performing routine air patrols around U.S. airspace and near key overseas military bases. 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